Showing posts with label Discipling. Show all posts
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Tuesday, April 15, 2014

Do Church Planting Movements Hinder Disciple Making Movements?

Do Church Planting Movements Hinder Disciple Making Movements? by Miguel Labrador

38_people_climbing_berlin_wallDo CPM’s (Church Planting Movements) help or hinder DMM’s (Disciple Making Movements)?
Jesus said, “Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.Matthew 28:19,20
I think, for the most part, that those who have a desire to plant churches and those that have a desire to make disciples, have equal convictions to see the message of the Kingdom spread, to see the nations (ethnic groups) transformed, and see many come to know Christ. But, what if one of them were to inadvertently get in the way of the other or even hinder the other?
The Apostles or first disciples of Jesus did not start with what is typically known today as a “church plant.”  They started by becoming mobile, moving, and mission.  They planted themselves and the Gospel into communities until the Lord directed otherwise and made disciples from which gatherings were formed.  The task remained the same throughout the New Testament era, namely to “make disciples.”  In fact, I fail to see anywhere in the New Testament where they had a desire to multiply churches in the sense of location based purveyors of religious goods and services.
If one of these two camps had a propensity to get in the other’s way, I believe it would have to be the church planters.  I am not a church planter, at least not in the way many church planters describe their task.  I like to think of myself as a disciple maker that leaves the method of gathering or fellowship up to the disciples being made.  If that equates to a building, weekly meeting, and bit more structure, then great!  If it means a simpler or more organic approach to fellowship, then again, great.  But when the gathering of disciples takes priority over the making of disciples, then something has gone very wrong.
What I have seen time and again, is that church planters, or at least the idea of church planting, has gotten in the way of disciple makers.  They misdirect resources, time, talent, and energy away from the main mission of disciple making and funnel it into things which are secondary or completely unrelated to that task.  They say that they investment into the facility and structure may draw away from the primary mission for a short time, but afterwards the impact will be greater.  I can’t recall ever having seen that actually happen.  In fact, one of the most successful church plants in history, Bill Hybels’ Willow Creek, confessed that all of their organization, power, influence, programs, teaching and structure, failed to produce disciples.
As a disciple maker, I’d like to proclaim the kingdom of God and teach others about the Lord Jesus Christ–with all boldness and without hindrance! (Acts 28:31)  I want to do that and teach others to do the same.  If you’re a church planter, who’s hindering disciple making, isn’t it time to say “pardon me,” make some room, and let the disciple makers pass?
Eugene H. Peterson (Author of The Message Bible) once said,
“There are monuments & footprints. A monument only says, `At least I got this far,’ while a footprint says, `This is where I was when I moved again.’”
My friend Mike Breen, (Author of “Building a Discipling Culture,” said;
“I’ve said it many times: If you make disciples, you will always get the church. But if you try to build the church, you will rarely get disciples.” 

I think Church Planting Movements hinder Disciple Making Movements.
 Am I wrong?  

Monday, February 11, 2013

Disciple Making

Disciple Making

The reason the missional movement may fail is because most people/communities in the Western church are pretty bad at making disciples. Without a plan for making disciples (and a plan that works), any missional thing you launch will be completely unsustainable. Think about it this way: Sending people out to do mission is to send them out to a war zone. Discipleship is not only the boot camp to train them for the front lines, but the hospital when they get wounded and the off-duty time they need to rest and recuperate. When we don’t disciple people the way Jesus and the New Testament talked about, we are sending them out without armor, weapons or training. This is mass carnage waiting to happen. How can we be surprised that people burn out, quit and never want to return to the missional life (or the church)? How can we not expect people will feel used and abused? - Mike Breen

Monday, March 12, 2012

Just How Big Is God and How Small Are We?

JUSTIN TAYLOR|9:11 AM CT
Just How Big Is God and How Small Are We?



(Image credit: Mark Subbarao, Dinoj Surendran, and Randy Landsberg for the SDSS team.)

Ethan Siegel:

Although “only” about 250,000 galaxies are shown in the above image, the entire Universe is estimated to have at least hundreds of billions of galaxies, spread out over a spherical region about a million times larger in diameter than our galaxy is. In other words, you and everything you know resides on a tiny, wet rock nearly a million times less massive than the star that powers it, in a solar system one ten-millionth the diameter of our galaxy, which contains at least hundreds of billions of stars not so different from ours, in a Universe filled with hundreds of billions of galaxies, and maybe perhaps more.

You. Are. Tiny.

HT: Andrew Sullivan

Here is some video perspective:



And the ultimate perspective:

Psalm 8:3

When I look at your heavens, the work of your fingers,
the moon and the stars, which you have set in place,
what is man that you are mindful of him,
and the son of man that you care for him?

Psalm 147:4

He determines the number of the stars;
he gives to all of them their names.

Psalm 148:3

Praise him, sun and moon,
praise him, all you shining stars!

Seeing this again reminded me of a section of J.B. Phillips’s New Testament Christianity, entitled “The Angels’ Point of View (or, The Visited Planet)“:

Once upon a time a very young angel was being shown round the splendours and glories of the universes by a senior and experienced angel. To tell the truth, the little angel was beginning to be tired and a little bored. He had been shown whirling galaxies and blazing suns, infinite distances in the deathly cold of inter-stellar space, and to his mind there seemed to be an awful lot of it all. Finally he was shown the galaxy of which our planetary system is but a small part. As the two of them drew near to the star which we call our sun and to its circling planets, the senior angel pointed to a small and rather insignificant sphere turning very slowly on its axis. It looked as dull as a dirty tennis-ball to the little angel, whose mind was filled with the size and glory of what he had seen.

“I want you to watch that one particularly,” said the senior angel, pointing with his finger.

“Well, it looks very small and rather dirty to me,” said the little angel. “What’s special about that one?”

“That,” replied his senior solemnly, “is the Visited Planet.”

“Visited?” said the little one. “you don’t mean visited by ——–?

“Indeed I do. That ball, which I have no doubt looks to you small and insignificant and not perhaps overclean, has been visited by our young Prince of Glory.” And at these words he bowed his head reverently.

“But how?” queried the younger one. “Do you mean that our great and glorious Prince, with all these wonders and splendours of His Creation, and millions more that I’m sure I haven’t seen yet, went down in Person to this fifth-rate little ball? Why should He do a thing like that?”

“It isn’t for us,” said his senior a little stiffly, “to question His ‘why’s', except that I must point out to you that He is not impressed by size and numbers, as you seem to be. But that He really went I know, and all of us in Heaven who know anything know that. As to why He became one of them—how else do you suppose could He visit them?”

The little angels face wrinkled in disgust.

“Do you mean to tell me,” he said, “that He stooped so low as to become one of those creeping, crawling creatures of that floating ball?”

“I do, and I don’t think He would like you to call them ‘creeping, crawling creatures’ in that tone of voice. For, strange as it may seem to us, He loves them. He went down to visit them to lift them up to become like Him.”

The little angel looked blank. Such a thought was almost beyond his comprehension.

“Close your eyes for a moment,” said the senior angel, “and we will go back in what they call Time.”

While the little angels eyes were closed and the two of them moved nearer to the spinning ball, it stopped its spinning, spun backwards quite fast for a while, and then slowly resumed its usual rotation.

“Now look!” And as the little angel did as he was told, there appeared here and there on the dull surface of the globe little flashes of light, some merely momentary and some persisting for quite a time.

“Well, what am I seeing now?” queried the little angel.

“You are watching this little world as it was some thousands of years ago,” returned his companion. “Every flash and glow of light that you see is something of the Father’s knowledge and wisdom breaking into the minds and hearts of people who live upon the earth. Not many people, you see, can hear His Voice or understand what He says, even though He is speaking gently and quietly to them all the time.”

“Why are they so blind and deaf and stupid?” asked the junior angel rather crossly.

“It is not for us to judge them. We who live in the Splendour have no idea what it is like to live in the dark. We hear the music and the Voice like the sound of many waters every day of over lives, but to them—well, there is much darkness and much noise and much distraction upon the earth. Only a few who are quiet and humble and wise hear His Voice. But watch, for in a moment you will see something truly wonderful.”

The Earth went on turning and circling round the sun, and then quite suddenly, in the upper half of the globe, there appeared a light, tiny but so bright in its intensity that both the angels hid their eyes.

“I think I can guess,” said the little angel in a low voice. “That was the Visit, wasn’t it?”

“Yes, that was the Visit. The Light Himself went down there and lived among them; but in a moment, and you will be able to tell that even with your eyes closed, the light will go out.”

“But why? Could He not bear their darkness and stupidity? Did He have to return here?”

“No, it wasn’t that” returned the senior angel. His voice was stern and sad. “They failed to recognise Him for Who He was – or at least only a handful knew Him. For the most part they preferred their darkness to His Light, and in the end they killed Him.”

“The fools, the crazy fools! They don’t deserve —-”

“Neither you nor I, nor any other angel, knows why they were so foolish and so wicked. Nor can we say what they deserve or don’t deserve. But the fact remains, they killed our Prince of Glory while He was Man amongst them.”

“And that I suppose was the end? I see the whole Earth has gone black and dark. All right, I won’t judge them, but surely that is all they could expect?”

“Wait, we are still far from the end of the story of the Visited Planet. Watch now, but be ready to cover your eyes again.”

In utter blackness the earth turned round three times, and then there blazed with unbearable radiance a point of light.

“What now?” asked the little angel, shielding his eyes.

“They killed Him all right, but He conquered death. The thing most of them dread and fear all their lives He broke and conquered. He rose again, and a few of them saw Him and from then on became His utterly devoted slaves.”

“Thank God for that,” said the little angel.

“Amen. Open your eyes now, the dazzling light has gone. The Prince has returned to His Home of Light. But watch the Earth now.”

As they looked, in place of the dazzling light there was a bright glow which throbbed and pulsated. And then as the Earth turned many times little points of light spread out. A few flickered and died; but for the most part the lights burned steadily, and as they continued to watch, in many Parts of the globe there was a glow over many areas.

“You see what is happening?” asked the senior angel. “The bright glow is the company of loyal men and women He left behind, and with His help they spread the glow and now lights begin to shine all over the Earth.”

“Yes, yes,” said the little angel impatiently, “but how does it end? Will the little lights join up with each other? Will it all be light, as it is in Heaven?”

His senior shook his head. “We simply do not know,” he replied. “It is in the Father’s hands. Sometimes it is agony to watch and sometimes it is joy unspeakable. The end is not yet. But now I am sure you can see why this little ball is so important. He has visited it; He is working out His Plan upon it.”

“Yes, I see, though I don’t understand. I shall never forget that this is the Visited Planet.”

Sunday, March 11, 2012

The Difficult Task of Disciple Making

MATT SMETHURST|10:00 PM CT

The Difficult Task of Disciple Making

"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me," Jesus announced. "Go therefore and make disciples." When it comes to the mission of believers in this world, few would question the importance of these marching orders. Carrying them out, however, isn't so easy. Consider two scenarios:
1. A middle-aged woman is approached by a young single mom with a full-time job and two kids. The busy mom has been a Christian for decades and is solid on biblical doctrine, but she's currently struggling with personal issues and wants someone to help walk her through this season of life. Because of her work schedule, she can only meet for the summer.
2. A Christian college student is trying to invest in a group of high school athletes. Most of them are brand-new believers, struggling with typical high school issues, and can meet for at least the next year.
Would you recommend taking these people from different backgrounds---with different needs and time commitments---and handing them the same discipleship curriculum?
Consider Downline Builder, a customizable curriculum designed to meet people where they are and foster spiritual maturity in the context of real relationships. In contrast to a one-size-fits-all format, the Downline Builder enables users to personalize scriptural content to fit their specific needs. I corresponded with Downline Ministries director of resources Jason Seville [Twitter | email] about their promising new disciple-making tool.
Downline Ministries has trained thousands of disciple-makers in the past five years through your institute program and summit weekends. What do you find people struggle with most when it comes to making disciples?
There are many reasons people struggle, but the biggest one in our experience is that they either lack a clear understanding of what it looks like to disciple someone, or they have an image of discipleship that is far too shallow. For instance, many people think of discipleship merely in terms of Christian education---going to a coffee shop every Wednesday morning to read the Bible or a Christian book together. This lack of a clear picture of true discipleship results in not feeling qualified or competent to make disciples. Around Downline, we like to speak of discipleship as "truth and life transference in the context of real relationships," which is something almost anyone can do.
So the short answer to this question is "competency." In general, people won't gravitate toward what they feel incompetent to do. We think we have some training (and a new tool) to help with this weakness, but it is still the most common problem we encounter.
Discipleship has always been valued and talked about in the church, but it currently seems to be even more of a trending topic. Why do you think this is the case?
Downline works closely with hundreds of local churches, and the majority of the leaders we talk to say that discipleship is a glaring weakness in their church (and the same is true of our interaction with parachurch leaders). This is no secret, as the recent influx of studies, books, articles, and blogs on discipleship will attest. Discipleship is "trending" because everyone's recognizing it as a huge need.
Perhaps more importantly, we attribute this to the sovereign grace of God as he guides his church. He has raised up some incredible pastors, elders, and leaders around the world, and when they all have a common word on their hearts, at the risk of sounding cliché, it's a God thing. We feel that he is graciously leading his flock toward a return to biblical discipleship. If Downline were the only group talking about discipleship, we'd be very discouraged. But we feel like we're part of a huge movement of churches and believers who want to see a restoration of biblical discipleship.
In your opinion, what does the current world of discipleship curriculum get right and get wrong? 
After extensive research on discipleship curricula, I am greatly encouraged by the sheer volume of rich theological and practical content on the market. I also rejoice at some of the stalwart resources that have been out for decades and stood the test of time.
However, there are two things that I can't help but see as huge oversights. First, there aren't any easily accessible avenues to train disciple-makers to use this rich content to, as we say, "meet people where they are." Most resources seem very cookie-cutter to me, as if I should use the same ten lessons with a 22-year old New York urbanite that I would with a 37-year-old small business owner. Second, the problem with most---if not all---curriculum is that it doesn't force, or even provide accountability for, authentic relationships. Any curriculum should complement the relationship, not replace it. The relationship has to drive true discipleship in order for it to be truly transformative.
What led you to develop the Downline Builder?
Ironically, for the reasons listed above, I've always been anti-curriculum, because I never found a resource that easily allowed for contextualization and majored on relationship. So the genesis of the Builder was really the weight that culminated from the first three questions above.
When Downline asked me to work on a new curriculum, my previous experience and research led me to the following conclusions: (1) it had to be based on Scripture; (2) it had to somehow have a major focus on both truth and life transference: it couldn't be a "let's just sit down and study systematic theology" curriculum, and it couldn't be a "let's just share about our feelings" curriculum; and (3) it had to somehow allow the user to customize it to meet the specific needs of the folks they were pouring into. The only way we could conceptualize a curriculum that would do these things was to move away from printed material and make it a web-based tool.
What makes this resource unique in the vast world of discipleship curricula? 
First, the ability to customize the Builder equips you to do contextual ministry. Once you log in, you have to fill out a page on the person you are discipling or group you are leading. Based on that information, we'll give you a blank table of contents and list of suggested lessons to cover.
Second, it requires relationship building. When you build a curriculum, you must plan what we call a "life on life" session after every two lessons that you put in your table of contents. You can't download or print your curriculum unless you include these fields. These will be things like working out together, running errands, sharing a meal, doing evangelism, engaging in a service project, and so on.
Third, the process equips you to be a disciple-maker as much as the product does. Thinking through various growth areas for each person you're discipling and personalizing a plan will hopefully train you to think more intentionally about what the next spiritual growth steps are for brothers and sisters in your areas of influence.
fourth uniqueness is the ever-expanding library of doctrinal and practical lessons. You will never have to pay for a "volume two" of the Builder. We'll keep adding lessons (even ones that you suggest) and as long as you have access, you can use the new lessons we add.
Finally, we feel that our payment philosophy is rare, as evidenced by the fact that we've driven our marketing consultants crazy. Our primary objective has always been to have a tool that could help equip and ignite a movement of biblical discipleship across the globe. For this reason, we went with a subscription model that allows you annual access for a very affordable price. If you buy an annual subscription, it's "all you can eat" for the whole year. We could have gone with a pay-per-lesson model, but we didn't like the idea of people trying to see how little they could do and still be effective.
This affordable price meshes well with our desire to get the Builder in other languages as quickly as possible. We have a fairly aggressive translation strategy that will attempt four new languages every year.
We truly hope that God would use this tool to equip pastors, elders, missionaries, and laymen/women worldwide. 
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Downline has decided to give the TGC family a 40% off coupon code up through April. Go to builder.downlineministries.com and sign up. Enter the code "TGCdiscount" at checkout to receive your discount. 
Matt Smethurst is an assistant editor for The Gospel Coalition. You can follow him on Twitter.
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6 Comments

  1. Praise God for this! Very very very timely. I have been working to encourage exactly this kind of discipleship at my church and this article will be invaluable in assisting me in providing structure to this.
  2. Thank you for spotlighting this very important resource. I can see so many uses for this around the world to train up brothers and sisters in Christ in their faith.
  3. I had not heard of this resource. I would be interested in a direct comparison of the philosophy of this tool versus the coming Gospel Project.
  4. maybe I am young and naive, but I don't understand why discipleship isn't life on life relationships......centered around the Bible. Why don't we open the Bible and read/study it while sharing life?
    My assumption is that either:
    1)we don't think its interesting enough.....or we cannot make it interesting..... so we seek books "based" on the bible...or even book studies outside the bible all together!
    or...
    2) we don't know how to read it and therefore we seek curriculum to disciple people and perpetuate this problem of not getting into the bible. We let others do the hard exegetical work and get spoon fed the context and application.
    You mentioned Jesus. What curriculum did Jesus use? Unfortunately I am not God and can speak the words of God, but I do have his words written down....I choose that as curriculum.
    If the goal of the disciple is to become Christ-like and sanctified and that is accomplished by getting to know God more.....and God's word is the best way we can know God.....why don't we dig into it?
    Again, I assume the above options....am I thinking too simply? Always willing to hear when I am wrong.
  5. David,
    I think you're exactly right! Discipleship relationships should be life-on-life relationships centered around the Bible. I also think this is exactly what the Builder strives to accomplish. It helps people gather around God's Word in the context of real relationships.
    A couple thoughts:
    - Using a curriculum doesn't have to be at odds with digging into the Word. It can be, and I'm sure we've all seen such examples, but to assume that it is necessarily so would be a false dichotomy, in my humble opinion.
    - Regarding your two assumptions, in my experience, people don't get together and open up the Bible not because it isn't interesting but because they don't feel competent to do so (among other reasons, but it is rarely an issue of “interest”). Part of my goal with any guy I'm pouring into is to help him become confident in this area (and others). So, for some people I hope that the Builder could function as “training wheels”; giving them a paradigm for how to contextualize the Word to intersect it with someone’s life.
    - Moreover, lest I be too apologetic, I’ve found great usefulness of other tools, books, etc in my personal discipleship experience (being discipled as well as pouring into others). I never want to stray away from the Bible—and by God’s grace, I haven’t in over a decade of discipling guys—but this doesn’t mean other resources are not helpful. For example, two of the most important things that older men have shown me is how to study the Word and how to share my faith. In both pursuits, they have brought in other resources to help in that training. We might need to bring in some principles of hermeneutics/homiletics (even if I don't use those terms) as well as modeling it before him consistently and faithfully. I assume someone did this with you at some point in your Christian life, no? If I want to walk someone through 5 weeks of hermeneutics in order to help equip him to study the Word (which I'm doing right now in my SS class at church), is that bad? I could just tell them to “dig into Scripture” but drawing on some other resources as I show them how to dig into Scripture (BY digging into Scripture together) typically proves useful to me.
    - The Builder curriculum is designed to be firmly based in Scripture... It would be fallacious to say that this curriculum was antithetical to digging into Scripture. Instead, the whole point is to dig into Scripture together.
    - Finally, I would caution anyone with a seminary degree to not forget that your training didn’t just consist of sitting in a classroom reading the Bible together. Seminaries use all kinds of tools and resources outside of showing up and “digging in” together.
    I sincerely believe that the Bible is sufficient for all we need for life and godliness. But, I also realize that people often need help with accessing that truth (even if for a brief period of time). To deny this as a seminary grad would indeed be to see it too simplistically, in my opinion. Unless, of course, I’m unwilling to afford others the same things that were once afforded to me in my growth and training.
    I definitely wouldn't say you are wrong, though.
    Just my 2 cents. May God bless your ministry, brother.
    Warmly,
    Jason
  6. man- you know I just went back and read my post and I think I came across as a big jerk. Sorry about that. You responded very graciously- you are a better man than I!
    I really appreciate your heart for discipleship and the success you have experienced in it over the past ten years.
    @jason
    you bring up some great points. Other resources are very helpful. Including blogs like this one.
    And the Bible and curriculum don't have to be at odds, but it feels like we can depend more on the curriculum than the Scriptures.
    Walking people through 5 weeks of hermeneutics is NOT a bad thing, and I wish it happened more in the church than feeling like we have to go to seminary to get that type of training.
    Yes. I have sat down with people, and by far the best was with a man named Wally Norling who didn't pull resources but instead gave me practical stories from his life about sharing faith, the word, etc. We simply opened the Bible and went through it. He didn't explain hermeneutics to me, just showed me how to read the Bible. Ephesians, Corinthians, Timothy...
    In seminary the classes that were the best were by far the ones were teachers would walk us through the text. Knowledgeable guys with a passion to make scripture come alive! John, Mark, Thessalonians, Daniel, Revelation, Genesis...blew my mind! Literally no extra biblical tools, just the bible....and sometimes an interlinear...but I don't expect people to learn greek--we got great english translations with men who have devoted their lives to getting as close to the original language as possible.
    Now I find myself in Kosovo with no formal seminary within multiple country limits. First gen. Christians who have a bible and not much else. Does this mean I should transport resources that they would have a hard time replicating or instead model a method of tapping into a resource that also happens to be the greatest resource...the Bible?
    I love your heart, and appreciate your willingness to go back and forth with me a little! As with you- may God continue to multiply your ministry and see many men and women transformed through your discipleship methods!

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